31 Horror Movie Commentaries continues with Alien!
Pete, Law, and Falvey get deep in space where nobody can hear you burp. Except everyone. Arguing about James Cameron, trying to find Ripley’s butt, discussing alternate continuations of the story, and drinking.
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In interviews and various other press materials leading up to the release of Alien Covenant, Ridley Scott was adamant in proclaiming that the film would be more a return to its horror roots than the introspective look at the origin of man which was known as Prometheus. So knowing that -and that only- I went into Alien Covenant with a complete open mind. And the mixture of emotions towards the previous film felt by all three hosts of this very podcast -I loved Prometheus, Moreno kind of liked Prometheus, and Valley couldn’t stand Prometheus– really made this film and ensuing podcast an interesting way to end this already past my expectations retrospective.
Join Moreno, Valley, and myself, as we dissect the hell out of the film, and proclaim whether we love it, or if Ridley Scott has in fact lost it. If you listened a couple BingeCasts ago, you know how Valley feels. But how do I, a die hard fan of the series, and Moreno, a relative newcomer to the series, feel about it? What could possibly be next for the Alien series? And what’s next for the Aftertaste?
All these questions and more are answered below. So what are you waiting for, a personal invitation from a xenomorph? Download below!
Five years after Fox cashed in on the appeal of Aliens clashing with Predators, director Ridley Scott made it clear that he was ready to return to the science fiction world which put him on the map. He had a meeting with writer Jon Spaihts, and together they mapped out a prequel of sorts to one of the most highly regarded movies of all time.
But a more contemporary approach was not what Scott was looking for. And, in a controversial move, Fox brought in Lost‘s Damon Lindelof to add an extra outside dimension to the answers fans were looking for. The resulting film Prometheus is still debated by film goers -and the hosts of this very podcast- for what exactly it adds to the universe it was claiming to be a part of.
Join me, Jack Valley, and Johnny Moreno as we engage in what is probably the most debate heavy podcast that’s been had since I started sprinkling in the retrospective format. And then gear up, as we get ready to ride the Alien wave straight into Alien Covenant, to be reviewed the week following its release.
Sounder Wars are a serious thing around here. Garrett’s rating scale is uncovered. Keen gives us a quiz on ourselves. Ammon discovers the internet. Jax calls in. Another .5 argument. Other stuff. Timestamp guy?
0:00:00-Ammon’s on time. How about that, ya babadicks?
0:02:17-Law, MorenAlyx, and Ammon are here for your pleasure. Gross. The technology issues Ammon have are fucking stupid. So much noise. Cocksuckers-they are talked about. Somebody special was supposed to be on. But he’s not here. So fuck him. The usu/youzhe (short for usual) cast roundup. How’s Moreno doing with those Alien movies? Garret’s review system is dissected and holy shit, it’s a mind blowing revelation. What the fuck is May Two Four Weekend? New shit on the site. One particular Google Voice by Alex Keen is going to test the OG3. Holy shitballs.
0:22:37-FUHOOGLE VOICE. The test prep/voicemail is around the 47 minute mark. That’s the last (laahhhhst) cawl of the segment, but there’s follow up bullshit about more tests, Lawlapalooza, and sounders.
1:18:03-SASS ARGUMENTS. Yes. Then there’s a non Sass argument right after. Jesus.
1:30:07-RECENTLY CALLED IN GOOGLE VOICE.
1:37:40-TV ROUND UP. Brockmire, Brocksucker. Anyway, Moreno watched the first episode of that shit, bending to Law’s will. Veep. Silicon Valley. Fargo. Better Saul Call. The Leftovers. American Gods. Law dropped the ball on The Handmaid’s Tale, missed it last week. What a fuckhole.
2:00:05-Phone call with Jax. Ammon does his drunk dream casting.
2:21:16-MOVIE HOMEWORK: 50/50
2:25:10-WHAT DID YOU WATCH? Sounder War to start because yes. Law’s a slacker, didn’t watch shit. Moreno revisited Prometheus and checked out L.A. 92. Ammon saw Ghost in the Shell, and took his a-hole children to see Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
It’s no secret that the first Predator was made based solely on the success of 20th Century Fox’s own Alien series. So when Stan Winston’s Creature shop unloaded the image of a xenomorph head on the ship of a departing Predator creature at the end of 1990’s Predator 2,it became readily apparent that the already existing series of comic books depicting the characters facing off against each other would see the big screen.
Non comic book readers were asking questions like how did he get it? Was it related to both film series, or a separate mission altogether? A series of video games didn’t really cut it. People wanted to see it portrayed in cinematic form. So in the early 2000s, 20th Century Fox, seeing the profitability of such a venture, set forth on developing a script that would depict the battle of the century.
This enraged James Cameron, who was working on an idea for Alien 5 with Ridley Scott and, seeing the lack of creativity behind what Fox was doing, walked from their project. Which is ironic given what he later says about the resulting film when it was released. What exactly did Mr Titanic and Avatar say? Listen to find out.
So, here we are. After Frankenstein Meets Wolfman, Godzilla vs King Kong, and Freddy vs Jason, we have Alien vs Predator. Join me and a couple enraged set of co-hosts named Johnny Moreno and Jack Valley as we try our best to dissect a set of films which quite frankly need no dissection. I mean, this isn’t Alien and Aliens here. Oh, and why are they enraged? Because I made them watch this ‘pair of fucking pieces of trash.’ Will I defend them? Listen below to find out.
Alien vs Predator (2004) (?/10, ?/10, ?/10)
Alien vs Predator: Requiem (2007) (?/10, ?/10, ?/10)
Enter the next two films of the Alien universe with myself, Jack, and Moreno as we watch Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. The last two films (for now?) of the Sigourney Weaver Quadrilogy, they are certainly not looked back fondly by most. But will one of more of us enjoy them, especially the Mexican asshole on the podcast who hadn’t seen either before this week?
Listen below to find out, and be sure to tune in next week when we do two, well, non existent Vs films.
There are film series. And then there is the Alien series.
There may never be a more different set of films than the Alien films. A series where the first four entries only similarity is Sigourney Weaver’s character of Ellen Ripley. The second set is looked at by many as a wasted opportunity, and the original’s director comes back over thirty years later to tell the philosophy filled backstory. Moods contained in the films change, as do directors behind the scenes. But will we adapt to them all the further we go along?
I have been looking for an excuse to do a retrospective on for the almost two years I have been injecting this format into the Binge Aftertaste. And with Alien Covenant rolling right around the corner (a review of which will end this series of podcasts), could there be a bigger reason?
Actually yes, as Johnny/Alyx Moreno has not seen the majority of the films. What will he think? How is Aliens to him after being told to watch it at least twice a year since him and Jim Law have been on the air? Will the hype get to him?
I am really looking forward to this series. So download the first episode below and listen to me, Jack Valley, and Johnny/Alyx Moreno journey through space. And beer.
Where’s Ammon? We wait. Ammon shows up. We’re drunk. This is our Saturday night. We’ve come to accept this as a thing. You’re a thing.
TV is starting to heat up which brings new life to TV Round-Up. Most of the movies we review this week are horrible. Logan reviews of Logan save the day. Speaking of Logan, where dat timestamp at, son. Boom.
0:00:00- Hey.
0:01:57-Law and Moreno. Soundboard Ammon. That’s good enough. New Waiting for Ammon is hitting Patreon shortly. Or it’s already there. It probably is. Patreon has a ton of exclusive shit that you probably want to get in on. Independence Day 2 commentary maybe? Will Bill Pullman suck his own dick in that movie?
Come on Bill, do it for the world!! Battleship Mushroom trip revisited. Alien Retrospectives (Podcast Round Up) are going to be the shit. Indy is done. How does AlyMore feel about the Alien flicks without letting out too much? Why doesn’t that Mexican asshole get hard for movie releases anymore?
0:38:29- GOOGLE VOICE. New Law drop within. 25 hours to get Ammon online. Jesus fuck.
1:12:52-TV ROUND UP. Ammon and Moreno yell at Law for his “filler” opinion. Speaking of which, Better Call Saul is up first, followed by Fargo. Law began The Leftovers Season 3. Veep has returned. Moreno is keeping tabs on John Oliver. Survivor has to be discussed, I guess. But some big shit did go down. Law watched a Casey Anthony documentary.
2:08:03-MOVIE HOMEWORK: Dirty Work
2:33:30-WHAT DID YOU WATCH? Ammon begins the segment with The Bye Bye Man and The Great Wall. Then, prepare your earholes for a Logan review of Logan, YA FUCKING DICKS!! R Rated superhero movies should be a thing. Moreno watched Alien and Aliens.
THAT’S IT YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS! I’M GOING TO HAVE A FUCKING REDD’S. GODDAMNIT.
Since we hit a milestone, we put up a poll here and on Facebook with a list of topics that we wanted you guys to vote on. The topic with the most votes would then become a subject of a show entirely on its own.
We threw in what we thought would be some kick ass topics that would make a good show, but one topic in particular took the prize.
You need to survive the apocalypse. And you need a team. Choosing from movies and TV characters (human only), who would you pick as your team?
What follows on this podcast is one of the most fun, violent, filthy, and yell-y discussions we’ve had. And it was all due to you guys donating on Patreon and voting on the topics. We fucking love you guys.
More shows like this in the future will be had on the BingeCast, so stay tuned for that. Below are our teams that got us so goddamn heated that we called each other cocksucker, yelled loudly, and threatened to fuck one character in their empty eye socket.
What would your team look like?
Law’s Team:
John Rambo – First Blood
John Conner – Terminator Series
Snake Plissken – Escape From New York
Batman – Where else?
Ellen Ripley – Alien
Moreno’s Team:
Sarah Connor – Terminator 2
Beatrix Kiddo – Kill Bill
Barry Pepper (forgot his name) Saving Private Ryan